RE: [Geopriv] RFC 3205 & HELD

From: Mary Barnes ^lt;>
Date: Sat Nov 10 2007 - 10:46:47 EST

Hi Lisa,

I'm interpreting as a recommendation to remove the WSDL from the HELD
document. If that's not the case, let me know, otherwise, I'll plan on


-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Dusseault []
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Hannes Tschofenig
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] RFC 3205 & HELD

On Oct 28, 2007, at 3:20 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> PS: What is the value of WSDL in the HELD specification?

I always ask this question too and have yet to hear a good answer any
time WSDL is proposed. Just ran across James Snell's blog post
( today which backs up WSDL-
skepticism with more experience:

"Those who are familiar with my history with IBM should know that I was
once a *major* proponent of the WS-* approach. I was one of the original
members of the IBM Emerging Technologies Toolkit team, I wrote so many
articles on the subject during my first year with IBM that I was able to
pay a down payment on my house without touching a dime of savings or
regular paycheck, and I was involved in most of the internal efforts to
design and prototype nearly all of the WS-* specifications. However,
over the last two years I haven't written a single line of code that has
anything to do with WS-*. The reason for this change is simple: when I
was working on WS-*, I never once worked on an application that solved a
real business need. Everything I wrote back then were demos. Now that
I'm working for IBM's WebAhead group, building and supporting
applications that are being used by tens of thousands of my fellow
IBMers, I haven't come across a single use case where WS-* would be a
suitable fit."

And I'm even less optimistic about WSDL suitably solving a problem in a
suite of standards protocols , than I am about it solving problems in
enterprises with custom non-standard Web applications.


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