Re: [Geopriv] Consensus call: Basis for revisions to RFC 3825

From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) ^lt;drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
Date: Tue Apr 21 2009 - 11:21:05 EDT

I believe the restructuring issues will be lost if I accept the document now.

Explain to me how we can minimise the restricturing and rewrite changes when the document I am being asked to accept now appears to do pretty much a total rewrite.

I therefore sustain my objection.

regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com [mailto:Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:06 PM
> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); rbarnes@bbn.com
> Cc: geopriv@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Consensus call: Basis for revisions to RFC 3825
>
> Keith,
>
> IEEE needs a conclusion on this document asap. Do you have a
> technical argument against 3825bis? The restructuring issues
> can be handled at a later stage.
>
> My answer to Richard's question: YES.
>
> - gabor
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >Behalf Of ext DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:19 AM
> >To: Richard Barnes
> >Cc: 'GEOPRIV'
> >Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Consensus call: Basis for revisions
> to RFC 3825
> >
> >I have just created a diff of the RFC against the I-D.
> Because there has
> >been some radical restructuring, and because there have
> been attempts to
> >do a complete rewrite, this is not the direction I want to
> see this work
> >go. Therefore I must still reject the 3825bis draft as a
> starting point.
> >
> >In my view the effective changes on the document must be much less
> >radical, i.e. no restructuring of the document, no rewrite
> of clauses
> >where we are not attempting to address problems, and so on.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rbarnes@bbn.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:21 AM
> >> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> >> Cc: 'GEOPRIV'
> >> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Consensus call: Basis for
> revisions to RFC 3825
> >>
> >> Keith,
> >>
> >> What Hannes said is correct: The question is whether the
> >> document in question should be used as a starting point for
> >> the WG document. The issue of scope is independent of this
> >> question (but related, since one would like the starting
> >> point to be close to the goal), since the document will be
> >> revised to meet the needs of the WG.
> >>
> >> --Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> >> > I have some major problems with this question, and
> >> therefore the answer has to be no.
> >> >
> >> > The underlying basis for any revision has to be RFC3825. I
> >> am not in favour of a carte blanche replacement of RFC 3825.
> >> In the absence of consensus, current 3825 requirements prevail.
> >> >
> >> > What we should be attempting to do is fix the problems in
> >> RFC 3825. So I would prefer questions asked on: Do we agree
> >> on the fix of a specific issues.
> >> >
> >> > Keith
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org
> >> >> [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Barnes
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:43 AM
> >> >> To: 'GEOPRIV'
> >> >> Subject: [Geopriv] Consensus call: Basis for
> revisions to RFC 3825
> >> >>
> >> >> All,
> >> >>
> >> >> Based on the prior thread about the scope of 3825
> fixes, it sounds
> >> >> like the closest of the three proposed documents to what
> >> people want
> >> >> is draft-thomson-geopriv-3825bis-03. So I would like
> to put the
> >> >> following question to the group:
> >> >>
> >> >> Should the WG document for revisions to RFC 3825 be based on
> >> >> draft-thomson-geopriv-3825bis-03?
> >> >>
> >> >> Please respond to the list by Monday, 27 April 2009.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> --Richard
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