Re: [Geopriv] Patent - Apparatus and method for associating a geospacial location to content on a network

From: James M. Polk ^lt;>
Date: Tue Dec 14 2010 - 16:32:29 EST

At 12:03 PM 12/14/2010, Richard L. Barnes wrote:
>So as far as I can tell, they've patented the act of making a
>PIDF-LO that includes an "XML content identifier" in the "entity",
>"src", or "name" attributes of the <presence> element. As
>illustrated in one of the figures:
>IANAL, but: I would think that RFC 3863 would be dispositive, since
>it pre-dates the patent application by three years and specifies the
>"entity" attribute as type "anyURI". As for the "src" and "name"
>attributes, the claimed mechanism doesn't result in valid XML
>anyway, so even if you had attributes with those names, they would
>be in different namespaces (ext:src="..."), thus clearly different
>from the claimed mechanism.
>Maybe the patent can be invalidated on the basis of their consistent
>use of the word "geospacial"?

ASAIK, "patent invalidation" usually (always?) requires a court
challenge (with someone paying the court fees).

ISTM, your examination is otherwise sound.


>On Dec 14, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Carl Reed wrote:
> > I am sure this group is aware of the TCS patent. Pretty irksome
> given that PIDF, LO, PIDF-LO, SUPL and so forth are all open,
> freely available standards. To use an open standard and then patent
> an idea about how to use an open standard. Give me a break. In all
> my years in the geospatial industry, I have never seen anything
> like this. Even more irksome given that the LO is totally generic
> and application neutral. Also, in the GIS/geotagging community
> there is I suspect significant prior art.
> >
> >
> >
> > The format of the Presence Information Data Format--Location
> Object (PIDF-LO) as defined by the Internet Engineering Task Force
> (IETF) is extended or modified to accommodate, within the standard
> PIDF-LO format, an association of geospatial location to virtual
> content on the Internet. A filename of virtual content is
> associated with geospatial location information (either a specific
> location, zone, or direction). The filename is inserted into a
> <presence . . . > section of a Presence Information Data
> Format-Location Object (PIDF-LO) compliant document as defined by
> the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). In this way, geospatial
> location information is associated with Internet based virtual
> content using a standard PIDF-LO format.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Carl Reed, PhD
> > CTO and Executive Director Specification Program
> > Open Geospatial Consortium
> >
> >
> > The OGC: Making Location Count!
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